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How to inject some truth and sanity into social media discussions.
Social media feeds are often filled with viral posts attacking Zionists and the Jewish state. While it’s unlikely that we can change the minds of the most hardcore anti-Israel users, posting factual information about Israel can help educate some people who are exposed to these toxic threads.
Here are a few short, social media-friendly blurbs that answer some of the most common slurs about Israel. Use or adapt them next time you see an anti-Israel comment.
The International Criminal Court defines apartheid as the implementing and maintaining a system of legalized segregation in which one racial group is deprived of civil rights. That’s the very opposite of Israel, where all citizens – Jews, Arabs, and others – are equal under the law. Arab Israelis are Members of Parliament, police officers, diplomats, doctors, lawyers, and sit in Israel’s Supreme Court. Israeli beaches, restaurants, universities, and public areas are filled with a diverse mix of Arabs, Jews, and others. South African Judge Richard Goldstone has observed: “in Israel, there is no apartheid. Nothing there comes close to the definition of apartheid under the 1998 Rome Statute.”
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South African journalist Benjamin Pogrund notes: “I know Israel today – and I knew apartheid up close. And put simply, there is no comparison between Israel and apartheid. The Arabs of Israel are full citizens. Crucially, they have the vote and Israeli Arab MPs sit in parliament. An Arab judge sits on the country’s highest court; an Arab is chief surgeon at a leading hospital; an Arab command a brigade of the Israeli army; others head university departments. Arab and Jewish babies are born in the same delivery rooms, attended by the same doctors and nurses, and mothers recover in adjoining beds. Jews and Arabs travel on the same trains, taxis and…buses. Universities, theatres, cinemas, beaches and restaurants are open to all.”
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Rev. Dr. Kenneth Meshoe, a member of South Africa’s Parliament, refutes the slur that Israel – which guarantees full legal and social rights for all its citizens – is an apartheid state: “I am shocked by the claim that the free, diverse, democratic state of Israel practices apartheid. This ridiculous accusation trivializes the word apartheid, minimizing and belittling the racism and suffering endured by South Africans of color.”
British Col. Richard Kemp, who has 30 years’ experience battling insurgencies in Afghanistan and elsewhere, calls Israel “the most moral army in the world in the history of warfare” and notes that the high death toll in Gaza is due to Hamas’ practice of embedding its fighters in civilian homes, mosques, hospitals, and schools. “Hamas wants to maximize the death of its civilian population. The purpose is to get the international community, the United Nations, the United States and other governments around the world to condemn Israel, to vilify Israel, to delegitimize Israel and to undermine the Jewish state in that way.”
Hamas is not a partner for peace. Instead of building up Gaza, it’s spent decades stealing international aid money and building up its arsenal. Hamas official Khalil al-Hayya told the New York Times on Nov. 8, 2023 that “Hamas’s goal is not to run Gaza and to bring it water and electricity and such” or to improve the situation of ordinary Gazans, but to create a state of permanent war with Israel: Hamas “did not seek to improve the situation in Gaza. This battle is to completely overthrow the situation” and create a permanent state of war.
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The USA and others recognize it as a terrorist organization for good reason: Hamas’s charter calls for the death of all Jews, and urges Muslims to rise up and murder Jews. “The time will not come until Muslims with fight the Jews; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him!” Hamas is a fanatical terror group which aims to destroy Israel, embeds its fighters in civilian homes, hospitals, mosques, and schools, and doesn’t care how many innocent Gaza civilians are killed in the crossfire.
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Hamas’ own charter forbids it from pursuing peace: Peace “initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement.” Hamas leader Yahyah Sinwar is said by Israeli intelligence to be hiding in Hamas’ extensive tunnel network in Gaza, surrounded by at least 20 Israeli hostages and carrying 25 kg of dynamite he would detonate if Israeli troops drew near.
Jews have lived in Israel continually for over 3,000 years. We are the only nation on earth who speaks the same language, practices the same religion, and lives by the same holy book as we did 3,000 years ago. Jews the world over pray facing Jerusalem. At the conclusion of each Passover Seder and Yom Kippur service, Jews proclaim “Next Year in Jerusalem!” Building a thriving Israel is an inspiring example an indigenous people living in their ancestral homeland.
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“Settler colonial” means a nation was settled by foreigners to extract riches for a colonial master. That doesn’t describe Israel at all: half of all Israeli Jews come from Middle Eastern countries and were expelled because they were Jews. 20% of Israeli citizens are Arab. Ashkenazi Jews (those with ancestors who lived in Europe) were targeted and killed because they weren’t “European”. Far from being settlers or colonists, the Jews and Arabs who live in Israel have deep roots there and deserve to live in safety and security in their shared land.
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Calling Israel settler colonialist is a deliberate misreading of Jewish history. Jews have lived in Israel continually for over 3,000 years. When nearly a million Sephardi Jews were expelled from Arab countries they’d lived in for centuries after 1948, Israel took them in. When 6 million Jews were murdered in Europe because they weren’t considered “European,” survivors found safety in their homeland of Israel. These Jews, along with the many Arabs who are also citizens of Israel, have turned Israel into a thriving, vibrant nation. They deserve to live in peace and security in their ancestral homeland.
Lol - you’ve just posted a picture of a Jewish artifact! Before Israel’s founding in 1948, it was Jews, not Arabs, who called themselves “Palestinian.” “The Palestine Post” was a Jewish newspaper that today is “The Jerusalem Post.” The Palestine Symphony Orchestra was set up by Jews and today is the Israel Philharmonic. Before 1948, Arab residents of present day Israel traditionally referred to themselves as Arabs or Ottoman Arabs.
Since Israel gained control of the West Bank and Gaza in 1967, the Palestinian Arab population there has increased from under a million in 1967 to nearly five million today. Gaza’s population leapt from 394,000 in 1967 to an estimated 2.3 million people today. Charges that Israel is committing “genocide” are nonsense, and are merely an attempt to demonize Israelis and Jews.
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The UN defines genocide as having “intent to destroy…a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group” by killing or otherwise causing widespread death, inflicting serious injury, preventing childbirth, and taking away children. It means targeting a specific group because of who they are, not what they have done. That is not the case in Gaza, where Israel is battling Hamas fighters who embed themselves in civilian populations, all the while taking extraordinary measures to minimize civilian casualties.
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Accusing Israel of genocide plays into Hamas’ hands. Hamas has fired thousands of rockets at civilian targets in Israel over the past year. As the AJC notes, “Those missiles don’t originate from military bases, as international law dictates. They are fired from civilian neighborhoods in the Gaza Strip, and from inside, next to, and underneath nominally civilian areas in Gaza like residential buildings, schools, mosques, and hospitals.” Hamas is effectively using the entire population of Gaza as a human shield. If anyone is putting civilians in Gaza at risk, it is Hamas.
Adapt and use these comments as you see fit. Please share your own replies to these and other anti-Israel slurs in the comments section below. Try to inject some truth and sanity into social media discussions.
When the rockets of Hamas etc were fired into Israel it would have been nice if civilians in Israel fired an artillery shell blindly into Gaza 1:1. What would the Jew haters have said? Hopefully there won’t be a next time BUT…….
Everybody who has any comic talent should note and use the following.
Palestinian is the British and Roman accent on PHilistine (NB the aspirate H) and from that the Hebrew shoresh/root Pay - Lamed - Shin which gives us the noun PLiSH-teem and the verb Le-FaLeSH: to intrude/ invade/ trespass /burgle ....
So we have a bunch of Arabs unwittingly - because their story was written by the ignorant KGB- calling themselves: intruders, burglars, invaders, trespassers while claiming to be aboriginals while calling the original aboriginal sons of the soil returned the foreign imperialist colonial settlers. You could not make it up ! Especially as the point oof Islam is imperialistically to conquer the World and colonially convert all to their literally headbanging prayer rite.
The best answer to the apartheid slur is that the entire Moslem World considers non - Moslems second class dhimmi who are tolerated only if they, "feel themselves subdued" and pay jizya "for protection."
As for "settler colonial State" the USA and every other state on the American continents and in Australasia is/are "settler colonials" founded by Europeans.
Over half of the Jews of Israel came from families that survived the Middle Ages as refugees in the Arab World.
Good Point: During WW2 when the Japs attacked Pearl Harbor and took hostages how would America have responded. Compare this to what Hamas did Oct 7.
May I suggest a reminder how their lives benefit from Israeli, Jewish technology.
How can haters choose the high ground unless they ditch mobile phones, video games, TV remotes, flashlights?
Throw away Marvel Superheroes collectibles, refuse treatment for TB and Polio, and hope they never experience heart issues because Jews invented defibrillators and pacemakers.
Gardening? No more drip irrigation.
Their next manifesto should be scrawled with pencil and paper because ballpoints, fountain pens, and word processing tech was invented by Jews. No more Google searches, either.
When they get back home take their cherished teddy bears to the local charities.
Otherwise they're just weak minded hypocrites.
While Israel remains strong nationally and internationally she provides relevance and a witness to the world of God's power. She must reclaim sovereignty over all Israel and make no more concessions for the sake of peace with those who would see her destroyed. Israel must practice being blunt even with her "close" friends.
Great article! There's one part that needs to be updated, though. This part:
Hamas leader Yahyah Sinwar is said by Israeli intelligence to be hiding in Hamas’ extensive tunnel network in Gaza, surrounded by at least 20 Israeli hostages and carrying 25 kg of dynamite he would detonate if Israeli troops drew near.
"Ashkenazi Jews (those with ancestors who lived in Europe) were targeted and killed because they weren’t “European”.
This part of the article under the paragraph that begins "settler colonial" confuses me.
Who is the author saying killed Ashkenazi Jews, my own ancestors?
That certainly isn't the reason they were killed (being non-european).
Non-Jew here.
Whenever I hear someone complaining about Israel, I usually say, "Have you taken a good look at what's around them?" Usually, he/she shuts up quickly.
Lets pray for peace so the region can prosper once more.
The fantatical Arabs Hamas and Hezbullah do not care about its civilians.
This is very evident. Their viewpoint is all about creating war. Iran and Lebanon being behind it all.
Moderate Arab countries are intellligent enough to prosper without war. They realise how inventive and adaptive Israel is both Jews and Arabs who live there. Israel has been in the hands of the Jews, Israelites for 3000 years.
Thanks for sharing I will spread the word as I hope one day I will be a Jew.
To ADS: I think I've figured out where your complete misunderstanding of this region, its inhabitants and its history stems from. You, in common with most Western observers, impose Western concepts of colonialism, imperialism, discrimination, etc., while ignoring the actual values of the Middle East (something Edward Said would have deemed 'Orientalism' - I hate having to agree with even one iota he said, but . . ). The Muslims - mostly Arabs, but also Persians, Egyptians, Berbers - consider it a gross insult to their religion and prophet if even one square inch of land that was once under their control (dar al Islam) would be ruled by non-Muslims (dar al harb - literally, the place of the sword / war). So of course there was no problem with Ottoman Turks ruling this land as one province
in their vast empire. Nor was Jordanian / Hashemite / Muslim rule a problem, as long as the Western ideas of 'national self determination' were not present. Of course, they were quick to use this concept for their own good, knowing Westerners would be sympathetic to the 'national goals of the Palestinian people', who had heretofore not existed except as part of the Muslim ummah. Anti-Jewish (you probably want to call them anti-Israeli) organizers here in the US astutely applied aspects of CRT and Marxist thought to their own cause, thus gaining the support of very vocal young people who had been 'educated' into Marxist ideology on our tax-funded college campuses. Terms like: settler colonial enterprise, apartheid, genocide, etc were expropriated to be chanted by these indoctrinated kids
who often could not give a concrete definition of these terms and certainly could not cite one shred of evidence of Jewish Israeli 'guilt' of these 'crimes'. Unfortunately, even the 'elite' of Israeli institutions subscribed to this Western 'conceptzia' that the Arab Muslims are true partners for peace, if only they could be bribed by promises of economic prosperity and political power. But the differences between Jews and Muslims is not economic, nor political: they are part of a clash of cultures, each seeing itself as the true inheritor of the land promised to Abraham. Jews have always used prayer and good deeds, as posited in the Torah, to achieve the ultimate goal of God's return to Zion and His ingathering of the Jewish exiles. Muslims, obviously, have chosen a different route.
It is ridiculous that both religions not came from a distortion of Judaism, Christian and Islam/Musiims have a problem with Jews and Israel, and Jews are trying to explain their warped view of the Muslim world, why do Jewish Israelis want to be loved by their enemies it is like Jews trying to be loved by the Nazis(may their name be erased) that want to kill you, these two distorted offshoots of Judaism want to convert you to their religiins or kill you, why are religious Jews trying to explain the logic of our enemies, Jews from Muslim countries knew how they were treated and most of these Jews went to Israel nobody talks about Jewish refugees from Arab countries and there was a lot of them and didn't get money, I don't care about the logic about Muslims have about non Muslims,
In most of Europe the Muslims made Sharia(Muslim) Law and the police have no go zones, if a Jew lives in these places their lives are in danger, now they want to take over United States the only one that saw this coming was Rabbi Meir Kahane(obm) what he(obm) said about the exile and Israel was on point and is unfolding these days, I don't want to know the logic about the Muslims, unfortunately I know stories how they think that is the oppsite of the way Jews think to be put mildly
Those Jews who 'want to be loved by their enemies' are under the delusion that Western values are accepted by those enemies. Unfortunately, the Jews themselves have forsaken their own inherited values - as the children of Abraham - and have adopted Western liberal values as their alternative religion. It is only when Jews remember who they really are and turn to God instead of teh UN for resolution of the world's problems, that we will be accpeted by anyone. People respect those who respect rhemselves - but first we have to know what that 'self' is and it isn't some pale reflection of the liberal zeitgeist; it is the soul intrinsic to each human being and the Torah that our ancestors received at Sinai and bequeathed to us.
I have to smile when I hear Jews disparage "Western liberal values". It is these values that allows Judaism to flourish in the West and which led to the establishment of the State of Israel. It is when liberalism is supplanted by authoritarianism that the Jews suffer. (American voters should take note)
However, liberalism isn't perfect and it has its limits. There are ideologies which should not be tolerated and must not be shielded by liberal ideas of freedom of speech and freedom of religion.
The liberal who lived 2000 years ago said "love your enemy", not what you said. We can never have peace without respect.
No, you are again incorrect about the religion. The Muslims do not see themselves as the inheritors of the Promised Land. In fact, it is clear from the Qur'an that the land was promised to the Children of Israel. However, the Children of Israel violated the covenant in various ways and the land was taken away. The Jews rejected their last chance of reconciling with Allah by rejecting His Prophet, Muhammad.
Can you see the folly in trying to use religious arguments to resolve politically issues?
Seriously, there are people who say that Muslims are "partners for peace"? Can you give an example of one?
Too much to unpack here given that I couldn't give a concrete definition of CRT or Marxist in a way that it would have any relevance to the issue at hand.
I don't think it is fair to blame "ideology" for the perception that the life of West Bank Arabs today is very different from what it was in 1967. Are we not allowed to say this?
This is historically inaccurate. It is easy to find lands which were formerly Muslim and which are not coveted by Muslims the way Israel is.
Unlike most Western and Jewish observers, I don't ignore the theological objections that Muslims have to the State of Israel. The root of the problem is in the religion, not the politics. If you would take the time to read the Qur'an, you would see why the re-creation of Israel is something that Allah would not approve. It must be a creation of the Shaytan, who corrupted the British and the Americans, and is, therefore, something that all Muslims must fight against (Jihad).
This is what we are all fighting against.
It's rare that one will be involved in lengthy arguments. What's more common is being assaulted with slogans attacking Israel. As a kippa wearing Jew, I encounter remarks more often than entering into discussions. When someone throws the usual "from the river to the sea..." stuff, I counter with "from the sea to the river, Palestinians gone forever." "Israel is an apartheid state" me: Gaza is a terrorist state. Israel is a colonial country, me: Palestinians are illegal squatters. Israel is committing genocide, me: "I wish they were. Palestinians are sick barbarians. Sometimes I use humour. Getting laughs always wins people to your side. It really is the best weapon. They don't know how to react to that.
I never defend against their accusations. The trick is to go on the attack.
Right
To some of the ahistorical / antihistorical arguments advanced by some people (ADS, for example) : The Jews were living in this land for centuries, as an independent kingdom, then as provinces of the Greek, Roman, and Byzantine Empires. It was only in the 7th century CE that the Arab colonial empire, expanding from its home in the Arabian peninsula, occupied the Land of Israel, settling a small number of its own people there as overlords. The original inhabitants of the land were given a few choices under this colonial empire: If they were pagans, their choice was the Crescent / conversion to Islam or the sword /death. If they were Christian or Jewish, recognized by Muhammad as the precursors and basis for his own ideas, their choice was the Crescent / conversion to Islam or dhimmi-hood
As dhimmis, they were subject to the jizya / special tax. In different eras, there were different policies promulgated by the Arab, then Mameluke, then Ottoman (all Muslim) colonial powers regarding the Jews of Israel, depending on the occupiers' political and military situation.
So many people keep saying 'it didn't start on Oct 7 (2023)', implying that we need to search in earlier history to find the roots of this conflict. They are right, but they cannot simply pick an arbitrary date that suits their own point of view. Why not go back to the first time Arabs appeared in this region as a conquering colonial power, settling its own ethnic and religious cohort as provincial governors over the indigenous inhabitants - the Jews? That seems a good point to start investigating
I don't know what point you're trying to make. During the 7th Century, and at any other time including the present, there were many cohorts of "indigenous inhabitants" in the region. I'm not the one cherry-picking a particular time to suit my point of view.
If any of us was able to trace all of our ancestry back to the 7th Century or the 1st Century, or whatever cherry-picked time you choose, we might find some who lived in the region between the Mediterranean Sea and Mesopotamia and in many other regions. What would it matter?
One thing that is constant in the history of man is that we migrate. Not all migrations are peaceful. We are native to where we were born. We might emigrate. This is the reality that we live in. I'm not the one attempting an ahistorical argument.
Starting at the beginning of Arab colonial conquest of the Land of Israel is definitely not 'cherry picking' a date: it is simply starting at the beginning.
Regarding tracing our ancestry: Jews over the centuries have belonged to the same ethnic /religious/ call it what you will group, who trace their history to their homeland in Israel. Three times each day, Jews recite prayers that have numerous references to Zion/ Jerusalem and the anticipation of return to the Land. So your reference to the 'constant history of man [which ] is that we migrate' is rather disingenuous: how many people who have migrated from their homeland, under any circumstance, still identify with their homeland and pray for return - 2 millennia later! The answer: only one -the Jewish people of the Land of Israel
That date is pretty irrelevant. If you need an example of a colonial conquest that didn't change the ethnicity of the region, just look at British India. Islamization took centuries in most places that were "conquered" by the 7th Century Muslims.
I read that some people alerted the security / miltary what will happen on 10/ 07/ 23 but the heads of security/ miltary ignored the warning one of the people was Avigdor Lieberman something is being planned by the enemy stop it, nobody took this warning seriously if I was in Israel I would sue the government, security, miltary for negligence and other legal terms not to listen to people that what was going to happen they had a problem with the prime minister and they didn't care about the people from the South and North, and the government told them to go to these places and nobody protected them the kibbutzim should of had their own security it was actually last year Succot, I hope everyone in Israel is in high alert now
Look carefully at reports on 7 Oct 23 in the Jerusalem Post and J.Report you will find that in several villages and the towns of Ofakim and Sderot police , reservists and security details did fight back seriously and made a local difference or the invaders would have reached Beer Sheba and further North.
Admittedly the whole set up should have been a "tauter ship" better sourced and drilled but do not junk the baby with the bathwater. Like 1973 they attacked on an obvious holiday - an old trick qv the British seized Gibraltar when Garrison at mass.
The nub of the affair for careful enquiry is Be'eri was prime victim because it had been the most compassionate and helping to the Gazans visiting Israel for medical and work etc so the attackers had the most intel on it .
Thank you, Yvette (from another Yvette) for excellent suggestions, even though I've been fighting Islamists on social media now for more than a year.
This was an excellent article. Succinct and to the point. I wish it could be sent to universities and colleges where so many young people - Jews and non-Jews- are only seeing one side - the anti-semitic, anti-Israel side
So how do Jews get the 6 points from this article out to social media, to fight the anti semitic and anti Israel bias that is on social media that was founded by a Jew called Mark Zuckerberg, it makes no sense to me why social media doesn't ban anti semitic anti Israel content, and if a Jewish person writes about it they end up in facebook jail a real double standard
The organzation from California, U.S. is called " Stand With Us" they write in a booklet the true facts about Israel and a timeline which refutes all the false facts, lies, propaganda on the social media people should read the booklet and know the truth about Jews and Israel a very long history
I would start by suggesting to look at an atlas published in the 1940s - one look demolishes the basis of the “Palestinian Narrative”.
This ADS person only reads bolgna social media lies, falsehoods, propaganda and doesn't bother to learn the Jewish Bible and also Jewish History that proves the 6 points that are listed, there are Sephardic Jews, black Jews, Druze, other religions in Israel, actually Jordan is 80 % of ancient biblical Israel the East bank in the torah ancient Israel was much bigger than now, I know some pro Israel organzations list the timeline and history of ancient Israel and also more recent times dates and the real true facts to dismantle the bolgna and rubbish written for gulliable and ill informed people, I think one organzation is based in California, United States and have a booklet with the true facts and timeline
Same with the border issue. People say Israel border expansion is a result of genocidal goals. But Palestinians refused the 1948 borders and chose war instead. They have never agreed to any border deal or borders because that would mean accepting Israel exists. Israel has expanded after every victory but that's how all nations are created, through war or peace so the borders now are what they are. Palestinians has never accepted Israel or any borders so they've been in a state of war with Israel since 1948 and lost all 6-7 wars they declared on Israel. They really should accept Israel existence and accept a fair border deal and get on with building their own state.
I'm not Jewish or Israeli, just an ally and this is my understanding. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
What you've said is based on fact, but your 4th sentence is open to misinterpretation because Israel has never sought war to expand her borders.
All the Arab-Israeli wars were perpetrated by vicious enemy states (as you've said) whose venomous hatred is justly achieving nothing other than stifling themselves.
If not for foreign powers' interference in these wars, calling on Israel to cease their solely defensive operations (in order to put an end to the belligerence once & for all), the attackers would've lost much more territory than they did.
So these sore loser cry babies resort to the things they excel at -- lying and accusing their victim of their own despicable Arab-style crimes!
Bravo for being courageous enough to stand up for truth despite its unpopularity!
Has anyone read the Declaration of Independance of Israel dtd. 05/14/1948? Israel offered the Arabs a ONE STATE SOLUTION, in FULL EQUALITY, and told all of the neighboring Arab countries that she was willing to work together with them for the benefit of the ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST. The non-Israeli Arab response was: Kill All Jews. They keep trying to do that. All else is just so much eyewash.
You are absolutely right, even the brother of Benjamin Netayuhu(obm) said " having peace with arab muslims is a pipe dream"
A 'pipe dream', meaning the Jews keep dreaming of peace but it's completely unrealistic since the Muslims want only to eradicate all Jews and their claim to their ancient homeland. He did not mean that it was not our dream; just that you need a 'partner' for peace, and the Muslims ain't it.
Right, it is more like a fantasy, to have peace with someone that wants to kill you, real peace will come when Moshiach comes not before hand, it says in the prophets that Ishmael will want to inherit Israel until Moshiach come the true heir of the land of Israel Isaac, Yacov, and the 12 tribes of Israel, not any family from Ishmael now they are Muslims adhering to Islam the outcome from the present of Hager that ended up in the house of Abraham one of the 3 fathers of Israel, we are still suffering from the present or gift
Thank you! Excellent article!!!
I agree too
it is a fact wherever the jews go prosperity
will follow and the people around will benefit
Right 100%
Lmao.
God, I’m glad all this stuff happened before my conversion to Judaism was completed. I’ve gotten to see who you really are.
B"H, we're also glad because it doesn't sound like you deserve to be a Jew!
I guess this person didn't make the cut to join the tribe
Silly, there's a REASON why all the 1st world developed democratic nations stand with Israel (all of EU, USA, GB, Australia, Canada, Japan, S. Korea, the biggest democracy in the world, India, and others...), while all the 3rd world poor Islamic dictatorships with zero human, women's, LGBTQ rights stand with.... "Palestine"
It is mindboogling that women, LGBTQ and some blacks stand with so called "Palestians" that are not really fond of these people putting it mildly, their life would be in danger if they went to their terrority, I Jewish woman that married a Muslim Phlliyis Chesler( I might of spelled the name wrong) wrote a book how Muslim men treat women, they have no rights and told her story to tell the world the truth about what she experienced, they forced to convert to Islam and the Rabbi said she is still a Jew
Yes: people with backbone who defend themselves, not the meek wimps so many people want us to be.
When is apartheid NOT apartheid? When the Lebanese restrict residence of 1948 Palestine refugee families, deny them passports and keep them out of a jobs list of 70: trades, crafts and professions.
When is racism NOT racism? When Saudis bar entry of any Jew to their country and in Jordan to sell land to a Jew is a capital crime.
When is genocide NOT genocide? When Arabs kill a million Arabs in the Iraq wars.
When Arabs kill a million Arabs in Syria and Yemen.
Ditto Libya, Algeria and S. Morocco
As someone remarked: no Jews, no News
Remember the Vassily Grossman line from his "Life and Fate" fictionalised account of the Russian Front of 1941-45 - "Tell me what you accuse the Jews of and I shall tell you what you are guilty of."
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True. Just as Catholic Europe initiated the blood libel against the Jews. Funny, coming from a religion which has its adherents believe they are drinking the blood and eating the flesh of their deity every Sunday at Communion.
Great article! But there's another statement that they say which Israel is killing kids.
Which as an Israeli I know that their parents are sending them with RPGs, but most of the world doesn't believe it.
The arab muslim leaders want the kids to be human shields, that they can blame Israel for killing kids, it is nuts Israeli soldiers are protecting their enemies with a risk for their own life, no other army does that, why after the Holocaust they worry what the world will say, in my view the world as no right to say what Jews or/ and Israel they lost the right to let 6 million Jews get murdered in cold blood plus 5 million non Jews nobody stopped the mass murder of the people
Hashem was specific about who is to live in the land that every other religion wants to claim as theirs. Islam and christianity will be eliminated when Messiah comes. Like any infection, Islam has spread throughout the world taking over other countries that never had the disease of islam. Be a Jew. Stand with the land Hashem gave to the Jewish people. Weakness is so unattractive
This is predicated on the idea that the other side is an honest observer and interested in hearing us out. In my experience, this is simply untrue - there's no-one listening on the other end, and no amount of truth, sources or reasonableness will change that.
Unfortunately, you're probably right about that, but since there still is a minority who wants to know the truth rather than to keep on ingesting all the Arab propaganda, leftist lies and anti-Semitic vitriol, an article like this one is after all worthwhile.
Why don't you take off what ADS wrote, which is what you point out in your 6 points, I never write against Jews and/or Israel I am a fan of Rabbi Kahane(obm), also admired the Rebbe(obm) the late leader of Chabad, also I am a child of a Holocaust Survivor(obm) that went to Israel before there was a state of Israel, and was smuggled into the land first my mom( obm) was in Italy then she(obm) got smuggled into Israel before it became the state at night, some Holocaust Survivors survived the war and sadly drowned before morning, one brother was waiting for their sister and they had to tell him sadly she drowned trying to get smuggled into now Israel at night, and now they lie, put falsehoods, propaganda on social media on some people believe our big enemies hook, line, and sinker
Well, if you limit your focus to the State of Israel, you might not see any basis for these "slurs". However, the same cannot be said when you look at the Israeli occupation. There are "settlers" and those are "colonies". The non-Jewish residents there do not have the same rights as the Jewish residents. As for your continued denial of the use of "Palestine", it was the Arabs who accepted the name "Mandate of Palestine", not the Jews who wanted "Land of Israel". Once the mandate had its name, it was only natural for organizations to use that name.
While the actions to date might not rise to "genocide", there are movements calling for the removal of non-Jews.
Instead of looking for example that don't fit these accusations, you should address the examples that could!
I don't get it. You blame Israel for some "movements" calling for the removal of non-Jews (removal, not murder), which if such movements exist are not the mainstream at all, and you ignore the Islamist world that surrounds us that desires unanimously to kill us all and wipe us off the map. So who are the genociders again?
The movements don't have to be "mainstream" to legitimize the accusations that are being made, and, I would argue, that since the movements have infected the Israeli government, they are now "mainstream", at least in Israel.
Perhaps I should let you respond to the Kahanist post above mine. This movement certainly does exist.
The problem is that anti-Kahanism is misconstrued as anti-Israel and antisemitic. This is the important issue that the article does not address. We need to be emphatic that the Kahanists are not mainstream and they do not represent Judaism.
No, I don't ignore and I certainly don't defend Islam. Taking the time to understand Islam has led me to conclude that religion, including Judaism, cannot be allowed into politics. But we cannot change Islam.
You damn well know that you're doing revisionist history. So you understand Islam, do you? Congrats! Israel is majority Jewish, derived from Judaism. Just like the U.S. is majority Catholic, one nation under God.
The "occupation"=apartheid argument fails when one returns to the 1967 roots of that situation. Israel's offer to retreat from these territories met immediately with the Arab states' three-noes-of-Khartoum rejection, which endured as policy for more than two decades. Even afterwards, no Palestinian leadership emerged that urged or even envisioned an end to the conflict under conditions of peaceful coexistence with Israel. Such remains the case. Even so, Israel destroyed settlements in Judea-Samaria-Gaza twice on the off-chance that this would create movement toward peace. No way, answered the Palestinian leadership(s). Their claim of Israeli apartheid is more than disingenuous; it is a fakery that they created.
My objection to the article's item 1 is that it makes a strawman argument. The accusation is that the West Bank is an apartheid state controlled by the Israelis, not that Israel is. Arab Israelis do have equal rights. That's not the issue. If there is an argument to be made that Palestinians and Jews living in the West Bank have equal rights, then that is the argument that needs to be made.
Something else that could be argued is that what the Arabs have always wanted IS an apartheid state with the Jewish population with fewer rights than the Muslim population. I don't know if their claim of Israeli apartheid is a fakery, but it is hypocrisy.
That's right. Israeli's don't have full rights in the PA - Palestinian Authority, which rules the Palestinian part of the West Bank. They don't have citizenship, don't get passports, and are banned from going into Palestinian Authority areas (and if they do, they get murdered). At the same time, Palestinians living in the PA don't have full rights as Israelis. They are not Israeli citizens. Just like Mexicans don't have full rights as US citizens and Americans don't have full rights in Mexico as Mexican citizens. US citizenship might be more valuable but that doesn't make it Apartheid that a Mexican in Arizona can't vote in the US election.
I don't think you can compare the American's southern wall, built on US territory, to the Israeli's security barrier built almost entirely on Palestinian land and preventing Palestinians from travelling within the PA.
please be more specific with respect to your statement that Israel destroyed settlement in Judea-Samaria-Gaza twice on the off chance this would create movement towards peace. When and where?
Your comment re “movements” is analogous to saying that the KKK defines US policy. Also, the difference in the disputed territory is between citizens and noncitizens, not between Jews and nonJews. An Arab resident who holds Israeli citizenship is dealt with under Israeli law.
These movements have influenced Israeli settlement policy. The territory is occupied and colonized, not "disputed", and there are reasons that Palestinians residing outside of Israel are not Israeli citizens. No one should be required to become a citizen of an occupying nation to acquire equal rights with the occupiers.
The article is correct on some of its points, but it evades important facts on others.
Apparently, ADS = Abdullah Duad Sinwar: your bigoted, sinister and totally preposterous attitude toward Israel & Jews (which is too thinly veiled, BTW) reveals who you are -- even if your initials stand for something else.
But you fail miserably to hide your ignorance of historical facts that cannot be disputed, except by rabid anti-Semites whose hatred has mangled their ability to reason.
Thus, any attempt you make to appear balanced and rational falls flat on its face and will eventually (may it be soon!) meet the same justified fate as befalls all our enemies (both external & internal) and/or their brazen lies.
Right, I agree
Please explain to me why Israel should give full rights to people who deny its existence, let alone people that would not
I think you need to step back and try to understand the opposite point of view. There are people who believe that the establishment of the State of Israel was an injustice. Whether or not we agree with them is beside the point. These people exist and we have to live alongside them.
It isn't a question of giving rights to people, but, rather, of taking rights away from people. There are, indeed, situations where there is wide agreement that rights should be taken away. The proper way to answer actions to take away rights is to provide a proper justification.
The establishment of settlements in the West Bank took away rights from the people who already lived there. How is this justified? Military infrastructure for security? Fair enough. But it isn't limited to that.
Are you referring to the illegal settlement established by the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, which illegally occupied and annexed the West Bank from 1948 to 1967, but failed to grant Jordanian citizenship to the Arabs inhabiting the area during that time? How come nobody objected to that occupation / colonization / discriminatory limitation of rights? Is it only .when Jews rule over a territory - and offer citizenship, develop education and industry, provide proper health care which lengthened the average lifespan of the population - is it only then that people object? Double standard - indicative of . . . . fill in the blank.
Jordan is actually 80% of ancient biblical Israel and in the partition the Jews got only 20% of the land, 80% of our land went to our enemy, there is always a double standard when it comes to Jews that is why Jews ended up writing comic books anti semitism in America, nobody wanted to give jobs in the writing industery, also Jews had to make their own hotels in the Catskills anti semitism, and now again anti semitisn disguised as anti zionism but to me anti zionism= anti semitism
As Naftush-2 says above, every attempt at resolving this issue met with refusal from the Arab/Palestinian side. For safety reasons alone Israel can’t relinquish control without a resolution. That is not “colonialism” or “occupation” but survival. Is it Israel’s survival which bothers you?
Yes, it is. I believe that the Israeli government's policies of the last few decades will ultimately lead to the destruction of Israel. Unless Israelis wake up to what it is they are fighting and what they need to survive, the country is doomed. Time is running out.
To be clear, I'm not agreeing with the Arab position, but there is nothing that I can do to change their position, is there? They have been consistent with their pre-conditions and no proposal has met those conditions.
the fact of the matter is all the Arab nations surrounding Israel are judenfree
no jews aloud
the mouvements for the remouval of non jews are fringe movments no political
representation but the Arabs are well represented in the parlament
You know who also wanted judenfree places the Nazis(may their name be erased), the relative of Yasser Arafat(may his name be erased) made a deal wirh the Nazis(may their name be erased) the Muslim relative of Arafat(may their names be erased) gave the Nazis(may their name be erased) the idea about the " final solution( to kill the Jews) this is true facts Ben Shapiro talked about it, i wonder if anyone knows this important fact in history, I know it others should be educated about this fact
I believe it is Mohammed Amin al-Husseini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, you are referring to. He died in 1974. Younger people may not have heard of him, but us boomers learned all about him. It has been said that it was because of his influence that a Palestinian State in the Arab partition was not declared in 1948 at the same time as the State of Israel.
True, the Mufti did not want to declare an Arab state in the part granted by the UN since his ultimate goal was the eradication of Jewish presence in the Land of Israel (read: itbach al Yahud, slaughter the Jews). His visit to Hitler shortly before the Wannsee Conference, at which the diabolical Final Solution was drawn up, was predicated on their common vision of a Jew-free world. The Mufti complained to Hitler that the Nazi atrocities against the Jews were driving them to seek refuge in their ancient homeland - something the Mufti would not tolerate! No step by step elimination of Jews; there had to be a complete and final solution to this 'problem'. Ever accommodating, Hitler had Heydrich draw up a plan coordinating all resources to that end (no pun intended).
Jews lived in Arab nations for centuries. Under Islamic Law, Jews who comply with the law are protected. A movement calling for the murder of Jews is a fringe movement.
Also, you need to take a closer look at the members of the Israeli parliament.
The Kuran is not a 'fringe movement', is it? The Hadith are not a 'fringe movement', are they? And that's where the call for revenge on the Jews for rejecting Muhammad is found, as well as the call to every Muslim to kill all the Jews to the point where even the trees and stones will point out any Jews trying to hide from the slaughter. So how, exactly, is this 'fringe'?
It is not a fringe, Islam has a problem with Jews, and Christians want Jews to convert to a religion to worship a mamzer, both are not good for Jews is there any religion that doesn't have a problem with Jews I know that the natives of Australia and the natives of New Zealand love Jews and Israel before the Europeans got there I wonder what tribes they come from
The Qur'an is not fringe, but many, many, many ahadith are.
The hadith that you refer to is despicable. Have you asked a "moderate" Muslim about it and heard his explanation? Muslims could and should do a lot more to suppress how this hadith is being used.
If it was part of mainstream Islam, the Jewish communities in the Arab world would have been wiped out centuries ago. Muhammad's treatment of the Jews of Khaybar provides the historic precedent for how Jews are to be treated; not genocide but torture, rape, robbery, execution of leaders and then the imposition of an onerous tax.
Pretty large for a fringe group when entire countries are dedicated to this “movement”. Cf. education in Egypt as one example.